SONNY VATOR -- HOAXER ?? -- The Canadian trapper video

This is an update on my original post on Sonny Vator. Updated material is at the end. Thank you.

There is a video that has been making it's way around the internet these past couple months. While I usually keep an open mind, this one is hard to swallow and I will not keep silent.

When I first saw the "Canadian Trapper" video, as it is popularly being called, I saw several red flags.  The zooming in and out on the alleged sasquatch and the panicked running of the trapper when the sasquatch appears to be just standing there behind a tree at quite some distance from the guy.  The face looks frozen and quite similar to the Chewbecca masks  -- of which there are several different versions on the market. Then there is the alleged child being clutched by this "mama" sasquatch. Frozen in fear. Fear of what?  Neither face moves, not even a blink. The entire thing screams FAKE.

So I decided to investigate this Sonny Vator. First stop was of course, Youtube. Back to that in a moment. Second stop was Google+. And there he was.

Listed are several videos, all now unavailable through his Google+ account.

"Cowboy Redneck's cousin gets attacked by Wild Dog"

"Bad day for Redneck Cowboy"

"Wild Child lives to ride again" - January 28, 2017

"Bigfoot attack part 3"  - June 18, 2017

"Bigfoot attack part 2"  - May 7, 2017

Now, on April 10, 2013 Vator posted a 10 minute "Blair Witch" styled video of a man named "Frank"  [Frank Wildchild, of the Wildchild video series fame?] who gets "attacked" by a bigfoot. This is most likely the "Bigfoot attack part 1" video of the series.  Then just two months ago, 5 years later, he produced part 2 of the "attack" where Frank wakes up inside a bigfoot "shelter". Now, while supposedly being terrified for his life, he sits around and stands around filming this "shelter" for about 3 and 1/2 minutes. Three and one half minutes. 

Then he finally wanders away from the shelter.  Somehow, he stumbles upon "Dan's" bag which holds a flare gun. ( The opening credits tells us that Dan is dead, having been allegedly murdered by the alleged sasquatch). For no apparent reason, Frank manages to load the gun and fires off the flare. And then doesn't stay in the area. Which one would assume he would do if he was trying to signal for help.

Frank continues to wander and eventually arrives at what is presented to be a sasquatch grave. A structure of wood covered with more of the skeletons and skulls (like the structure Frank woke up in). There is some sort of hairy creature lying there covered by what looks to be pelts of animals, like what one would buy in a store, or what Hollywood might use. He then spends over 3 minutes filming this, focusing on everything BUT THE BODY of the alleged sasquatch.

NEVER DOES HE DO THE NATURAL REACTION WHICH IS TO FILM THE BODY AND FACE OF THE BODY LYING THERE.

The film ends with more of the grunting sounds and wood knocks or branches breaking that the film began with and the screen goes black. With part 3 promised to come soon.

The descrepancy in dates revealed in the postings is a red flag.

The style of filming - ala Blair Witch -- is a red flag.

The history of types of videos made is a red flag.

Come on, people. This guy Sonny Vator is having a good time with all of you. He is making up stories and filming them. And not even doing a good job of it. He is making up stories and filming them. These are NOT REAL events. THEY ARE FICTION.

UPDATE : SINCE MY ORIGINAL POST DATE : THIS VIDEO IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. 

https://youtu.be/MbAB2UQ4KZw

Now, there is absolutely no problem with someone making up stories and even filming them. However, I feel there is an ethical and moral obligation to state that fact. There are other places that present videos that are not fact. They tell you. Campfire stories. Stories based on reported experiences.

Professor Moody said it best in the Harry Potter books :

"CONSTANT VIGILANCE !"

Investigate claims. Try to know the person. Discard blind faith. Keep an open mind.

As for Sonny Vator and his "Attack Bigfoot", my mind is made up. His videos are fiction. And if he presents them as fact, then he is a hoaxer.

Nancy

"I'll spark the thought; what you do with it is up to you."

UPDATE : Bigfoot attack part 1

https://youtu.be/OpEe4U_S_CI

Blair Witch. Just to give a couple highlights. Ok. So Frank stops to tell us that he is being stalked by "it". He finally stops to confront his stalker. He is afraid. He gets his rifle ready. BUT he doesn't forget to set up his camera to film it. And when the alleged bigfoot finally attacks him, it so obligingly takes the camera with Frank. How considerate. Beautiful ala Blair Witch ending to this segment.

bigfoot attack part 2
https://youtu.be/Cr2srwVihss

Well, I can see why the original video was taken down. From a daylight event, it has now turned into a nighttime horror film.  He has added snapped off trees and an x on the ground. He's kept the funeral platform but now calls it a young male. We are shown a bit of the body but still no facial features. The fake bones are still there. This time the "brave" trapper Frank Wildchild creeps up and with his knife cuts off some of the bigfoot's hair. 

Here's a thought. If bigfoot really lay their dead out on elevated platforms in the forest, why haven't any of the rest of us come across one? And if they think enough of their dead to place them in honor, why leave them exposed to the elements and to be eaten by animals? 

If they build shelters, why are they not taller so that they do not have to crawl to get inside? Why would bigfoot leave bones and rotting carcasses all over inside and outside and on top of their shelters? Why is there no footage of bigfoot tracks? Why is the snow undisturbed in front of the shelters except for Wildchild's tracks? 

And, last but not least, where the heck did he get that battery?  Man, it lasted so long and in the cold. We all want to get that camera and battery. Just saying.

Anyhow, all his previous videos appear to be gone except for 6. These two, two other's by the "Trapper" and the 6th telling you of a gun that's a good bigfoot gun. Guess the Trapper didn't have that one with him? 

SIGHTING REPORTED FROM HOWLAND OHIO

This alleged sighting is said to have happened in March, year unknown, in Howland in Trumbull County.


The man making the report was referred to as a 45-year old plumber who claimed to take a photograph of a group of "Bigfoots".  He was out hiking in the woods with his dog when the dog appeared to pick up a scent. The dog led the man to where he then saw the alleged bigfoot. He claims that he saw a total of four of them next to a fallen tree by a creek.


"There was one sitting, looking at me. There was a big one leaning out of what I believe is a shelter they made out of the root of the tree. I also saw what looked like two more crouching on the back side of the root. They were dark brown, almost black color. I'm 6'4" and I knew they were a lot bigger than me."


Between calming his frightened dog and trying not to make eye contact with the animals, he managed to take his photographs with his iPhone5 -- "no more than 10 seconds apart". The photo appears to maybe show a silhouette that could be sitting on a tree root. There does not seem to be any other shapes in the photo.

Bigfoot sitting on the root ball. Photo courtesy of witness and cryptozoology news.

enlarged portion showing the bigfoot on top of root ball
zoomed photo provided by the witness
photo courtesy of witness and
cryptozoology news



 “Look to the far right of the first picture to the right side of the black tree. Note his legs are weird but there is a tree laying down just in front of him that has snow on it," claimed the witness.

After about a minute, the witness said he could no longer contain his fear and he then fled the area. “I didn’t even follow the tracks I made getting to the area. I totally made a b-line to get out,” he says.


He claimed to have returned 12 days later to re-examine the area. He took more photographs of the area. No "Bigfoots" were found to be there.

this photo is claimed to show the exact same spot
where the alleged sighting took place.
Photo courtesy of witness and cryptozoology news.

“After the snow melt nothing in the pics, but note where the one was sitting, there is nothing there.”


“I have probably shown close to 30 people my pictures and I’d say over 20 believe me, others have said that it’s raccoons, a bear den, and someone’s pet monkey got loose. A few don’t see anything,” he added.


The witness said that day was the most frightening day of his entire life. He knows that he saw "Bigfoots".


“They didn’t harm me or chase me but you never know. I’m not gonna argue, I just know people need to know these things are out there. It’s been almost three months and there hasn’t been one day go by that I don’t zoom in or look at these pictures,” he said.


“They are here in this area and they are real. I know 100%,” said the man.




What is in the photos? I don't know. Is the man for real?  I don't know. Where  are the rest of the photographs he took both that day and 12 days later? I don't know. And Cryptozoology News? Are they legit? I don't know. The report of their reliability of news : unknown; Overall reputation : unknown; Trustworthiness : unknown. There have been no reviews, no complaints, no nothing on the website. So, take from the report and the photos what you will.


Nancy


"I'll spark the thought; what you do with it is up to you."

OHIO ENCOUNTER - January 2018 - BFRO 59078

Footprints, screams, howls, and disturbed dogs are all part of this man's experiences with sasquatch in Belmont County, near St.Clairsville, Ohio.


On January 20, 2018, a man taking his dog out for a walk noticed some tracks in the snow headed towards his neighbor's house. These tracks were in addition to the usual deer tracks and he examined them more closely.


The tracks were deep; 5 or 6 inches of snow was on the ground. There were two different sets, one larger set, and the other slightly smaller. They resembled footprints, more than boot or shoe prints. He felt fairly certain that these were tracks from sasquatch. He could see  what looked like three toes. Pictures were taken with his cellphone.

photo courtesy of BFRO and the witness

He took his son, visiting from out of state, out to look at the tracks. This time, due to melting of the snow, they were able to make out five toes. His son agreed with the witness, the tracks were not made by humans, deer or bear. As you can see from the above photograph, the prints lined up one in front of the other and it was obvious there were two separate creatures walking through the field, close to each other. The son wore a size 17 shoe. The prints appeared larger than the shoe.

photo courtesy of BFRO and the witness

photo courtesy of BFRO and the witness



The two  traced the prints back to the woods. There were at least 300 yards of prints. The son went into the woods the next day where the prints had emerged. He found a couple of tracks in a muddy spot that appeared similar to the ones in the snow. The witness revealed that the previous night, the dog had woke him at 4:30 am with growling at the window. It never barked, just growled for 45 minutes. That night, at 8 pm, they tried knocks, but got no response.

tracks in the mud.
photo courtesy of BFRO and the witness.









On February 13 the witness again found tracks within 20 yards of January's tracks.  Again there were two sets of prints in the 7 inches of snow. These also had toes visible in them. These tracks went within 20 yards of his fence and then circled back. The witness admitted that he and his wife put apples and other food items out for the deer.

The witness also gave some background history to these experiences.

Mid-September of 2017, the witness took his indoor dog outside around 1 am. While they were out there, they were startled by a loud, blood curdling scream, like a woman. One of his dogs, upon hearing the scream, ran to the door, wanting to get inside.

A day later, his wife told him a similar story. She had taken the dog out around 1:30 am and heard a most "god-awful" scream. It scared her so badly that once back inside and in bed, she could not sleep. The witness told her that he had the same thing happen to him the night before.

In mid-October they were sitting in their backyard with some friends. The witness said there was a faint howl heard over the music playing. He then asked if they believed in bigfoot. His friend said he thought they might exist. The witness then proceeded to give three knocks, Within 30 seconds they were able to hear two and a half howls in response. There were two complete howls and a third that seemed to cut off half way through. Over the next 45 minutes there was an additional three howls.  Said his friend :

"That was not human."

looking into the woods where the tracks came from
photo courtesty of BFRO



view from the woods where the tracks came from looking
towards the field
Photo courtesy of BFRO

270 degree view of the field from the tree line where the tracks came from.
Photo courtesy of BFRO



 Nancy

"I'll spark the thought; what you do with it is up to you."





MORE ROADSIDE SASQUATCH STORIES

Rob Roy bigfoot

Law enforcement officers see many strange things throughout their careers. One thing many hesitate to report to their superiors is anything paranormal, including seeing a sasquatch. So when these two deputy sheriff's stepped forward and told their stories to John Green, he paid attention.

Although this sighting happened as a teenager, this deputy sheriff never changed his story even years later when Green interviewed him.

The encounter took place in mid-September, 1966. He was on Fisk Road a few miles east of Yakima, Washington. It was late at night, around 11 pm and he was on his way back home after taking a friend home.

"I was on my way home and I came round the corner and it was raining that night, and lightning flashing and everything, and this thing was standing in the middle of the road. I slammed on the brakes and my car skidded right up to it and stopped about three feet from it. It just stood there and looked at me right through the windshield of the car."

When he had slammed on the brakes, the engine stopped. The "thing" walked around behind his car and then turned around and walked up to the side of the car and looked in the window at him. He finally got the car started and drove off.

He described it as being a little over 7 ft tall and had long hair all over. It looked like "a  big man", heavy, "awfully broad" and "kind of a light greyish white color". The witness also described the face. "He had a real flat nose and his lips were real thin. He had hair on his face, too, there wasn't any skin other than his lips and just around his eyes that I could see. I couldn't see any ears. He had long hair on him, all over his chest and everything."

When asked about it's eyes, he responded, "Just eyes . . .  I was so busy trying to get my car going I wasn't concentrating on staring him in the eye." He did add that the mouth was a little open and that he could see it's teeth. Although the eye teeth protruded a little more than the others, they were not fangs. He described the face as having a low forehead and a big, square jaw. The nose was flat and wide, like a human nose only "squashed".



Finally the car started and he drove off leaving it standing in the middle of the road.





bigfoot crossing road - Sasquatchchronicles.com

Verlin Herrington, a summer deputy with the sheriff's department, never intended for his encounter to become public. Unfortunately, he was overheard discussing it with another deputy and the story spread. Herrington made a report on it and after thinking it over, the Sheriff became concerned that a "horde of monster hunters" might invade "his" county. So he issued a statement saying that Herrington had changed his mind and had decided that he had seen a bear. And then the deputy was ordered not to talk to reporters.

The encounter took place  July 26, 1969 near Hoquiam in Gray's Harbor County, Washington at 2:35 a.m. Herrington was on his way back home. Driving down Deekay Road, he rounded a corner and saw something in the road. His first impression was that a large bear was standing in the middle of the road. There was no way to drive around it, so he stopped his car.  He allowed the vehicle to coast along a little further, trying not to startle what ever it was. As he approached closer he realized :

"This animal . . .  was not a bear, because you could see by the way it was standing that it had no snout. It had a face on it. Its eyes reflected, and when I came to a complete stop I could see in the headlights of my car that it had feet on it instead of paws, and it had breasts. When I centered my spotlight on the patrolcar on it, it walked to the edge of the road. It didn't fall down on all fours like a bear would. It walked to the edge of the roadway and stopped, turned, still looking at me. I re-adjusted the spotlight on my car so I could look at it better. Its feet had hair down to the soles but you could see the outline of the foot. It did have toes. Its hand was in a position where it was spread out, and it did have fingers."

As he got out of the car, it disappeared down a steep slope into the brush, always on two feet, never dropping down to all fours. Herrington got back in his car and drove off.

Under questioning, Herrington added the following details. He was around 75 to 80 ft away from the figure while he watched it walk off the road.  He didn't believe there was any hair on the face, just a "dark leathery look". The hair seemed to be longer on the head than the body. The breasts were located in the same place as a human's and were covered in hair, except for the nipples. The hair seemed to be brownish black, dark colored. He could see no neck. The legs were described as being long and muscular.

Two reports from Washington State, by men trained to observe and remember details. Both close encounters.

I have paraphrased and updated John Green's deductions. But there are still three basic statements.  We have these three choices on what to believe here.

1) Both men are liars.

2) That there were people who thought it a good thing to put on costumes and stand in the middle of the highway waiting for a car to come along and not hit them.

3) Accept that there is something around that has not yet been formally identified as real.

I know what I think.

Nancy

"I'll spark the thought; what you do with it is up to you."

 

PUYALLUP SCREAMS - WASHINGTON STATE

There is a history of screams in this area just east of Tacoma. The following are just a few of the stories.

The screams seem to have first come to public attention in July of 1972 when Marlin Ayris, a resident of Forest Green (at the time a brand new subdivision), wrote to the Tacoma News Tribune. He spoke about hearing loud screams for a couple of nights coming from the woods behind his house. His neighbors claimed they did not hear the sounds and some of them thought he was making it up. When it began to happen again the next year, Ayris made several recordings, but didn't make any particular effort to properly care for them. He even reused some of the tapes for other things. One that did survive is a recording made during the day by hanging a microphone for the recorder out a window of his house. The original of the recording was not kept, but copies made from it exist.

On many of Ayris's recordings that people listened to you could hear the creature screaming, accompanied by the neighborhood dogs. The sound of the frantically barking dogs muddied the sound of the screams. Although the screams were louder, the dogs were closer to the microphone.

On the "Daylight Tape", the dogs are silent, but at that time in the morning, the birds were out with their morning chirping and chatter. The call recorded was not an "eeeeeeee" scream, but more of a high-pitched, long sounding "whoo ooo ooo ooo" or what some say is a "whoop whoop whoop". This was made with a high pitch but at an immense volume. (This recording is exclusive to Oregonbigfoot.com)

Although there is no proof the creature taped was a sasquatch, it is assumed to be due to the number of sightings reported from the same area. Also a set of 14 inch footprints crossing a dirt road in January of 1975 just a few hundred feet from the Forest Green area seems to also support that theory.

1972 Puyallup scream

Two of the sightings of the creature were by  Mark Pittenger, a State trooper, on patrol in the area at night. In August, 1972, the patrolman watched something walk across the road in front of his patrol car while he was pulled over on the shoulder of the road. It came very close to the vehicle despite his lights being on. The other time he saw one, it ran across the road while he was driving.


Charles Challendar, at the time, lived at the end of a road about a mile from Forest Green. He also taped screaming from the woods  several times. On one occasion, when he heard the screams coming from an area close to his house, he ran down a trail in the woods trying to get even closer. Part way down the path, he almost ran into a creature he estimated at 9 or 10 ft tall as it stepped across the trail.


Some attribute the screams to coyotes. But some researchers said the screams are not normal coyote noises and that it is hard to imagine a coyote having that much volume to it's calls. Others say that sometimes the screams seem to deliberately imitate the coyotes.


Mark Pittenger had a tape that appeared to confirm that theory. On the recording was what seemed to be a genuine coyote and a response to them that was very like them, yet different. The two seemed to come closer and closer to each other but moved further away from the recorder. Then suddenly there was a distant outburst of frantic sounds and then silence. Pittenger went out the next day to search the area that the sounds had come from. He found the remains of two coyotes that appeared to have been smashed against the trees.




Washington sasquatch screams 




Nancy


"I'll spark the thought; what you do with it is up to you."